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(curls up into a sleepy ball) Is it Saturday yet? (yawns) I did not get much done this weekend. I meant to, but damn it, it was hot. D: All I could manage to work up the energy for was to write up an outline for a fic (a one-shot, relatively short, no sequel, thank you gods I can write without ten pages of notes), rant about Sarah Palin, and fail resisting picking some new strawberries and blackberries. (They're so yummy! :o)

I did manage some thinky thoughts for girl!Steve that make me sadpanda. Gonna cut 'em, because I know some people on my flist haven't had a chance to read her yet and would likely prefer not to be spoiled.

Soooo, I was pondering Ultimate Red Skull, which pretty obviously didn't happen in a strict canon parallel. (Unless I am hit with an irresistible impulse to write Stevie/Gail Fempreg DO NOT MAKE ME DO THIS I AM WEAK.) Of course, the second I realized "didn't happen", my brain went "OR DID IT?!" See, because I've already set the USA and Project Rebirth as ethically shaky (understatement), I can completely imagine them harvesting some of Stevie's eggs and pioneering artificial insemination, surrogate mothers, etc etc. Which would be completely and totally relevant to her story, because she desperately wants to be a Mommy, and that would possibly end more Badly than canon did.

But then it comes down to the DNA, right? If the serum altered canon!Steve on a genetic level, that would easily explain why he passed it on to Skull. But (and correct me if I'm wrong please), girls are born will fully-stocked ovaries, right? When a man makes sperm (wow, I'm feeling about six years old right now), he's using his current DNA pattern, whereas a woman (hypothetically) would only have eggs based off of her original DNA. (Unless, of course, Project Rebirth also affected that, which I suppose is possible, but we're already so far beyond my SCIENCE that I am dizzy.) Now, if Stevie were to become pregnant and carry to term, it's more likely than not that the resultant child would have her abilities (assuming the SSS can "infect" the fetus). 'Course, she's got a good chance of being infertile, so that's moot, and she'd know if she had a baby (spoiler: she hasn't!). So if I use a parallel, Ultimate Red Skull is either the result of fempreg!Gail or Grand Theft DNA. :\

I'm so horrible to my characters. D:

Related thought: Would a kid fathered by Ult!Tony have the same issue with massive brain that Tony does? And how would a Stevie/Tony child work through that? Biology paaaaaaaain. IHU Marvel Science.

Date: 2010-05-17 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whimzii.livejournal.com
I haven't read it yet, buuuutttt...being horrible to your characters is what makes them so incredibly interesting. :]

Date: 2010-05-18 02:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-05-18 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cursor-mundi.livejournal.com
I think girl!Stevie would indeed have normal kids if, by some chance, the US government had managed to be 50 plus years in advance of regular science. And considering that they couldn't handle the fact that girlcooties made the SSS work in that universe...yeah, I'm betting against groundbreaking research regarding female fertility. Also, Stevie would notice the surgery scars, or the bloat and cramping if they tried to force ovulation with drugs. With natural conception--and I'm with you, I'm betting on infertility, if only because she is SO FIT that she's not got enough body fat to be fertile--I'd say definitely, because if the SSS affects sperm, it's definitely going to pass the placenta barrier (it works on Steve's brain, too, right? And that filter's just as good as the placenta, I think).

With Tony's biology...the stuff that gives him brains everywhere (I have always been amused by the idea that he could have brains in his dick...if only because "thinking with the other head" becomes hilarious in that scenario) can't work in regular 1610 verse, despite what Marvel says, because if he can grow back limbs (that have cerebral tissue in them..."My entire body is my brain!"), he can damned well survive having a golf-ball sized tumor removed. *angry face* Also, he gets shot point blank in the temple in Ult. IM II and is fine in seconds. *really angry face* I do not like how OSC refused to play nicely with the other children. /rant

Anyway. Above paragraph aside, it's a virus. He'd pass it on, though I firmly maintain that his protective biotech armor is better than any condom, for his protection anyway. His partners probably need protection from the virus, though.

Date: 2010-05-18 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com
That needs to be a headline. "Girlcooties Makes SSS Work". Tony would frame it and hang it one a wall. Fury feels very awkward.

With the bloating, cramping and scars, there's actually a pretty easy work around. If they harvested early enough in her career as Cap, she'd still be pretty naive. Love her to death, but she had "use me for nefarious purposes" written all over her for about a year there. D: But I definitely agree. The US was so fem-phobic, there's just no way. I expect they have tissue samples, but fat lot of good that's going to do them decades before cloning technology.

and I'm with you, I'm betting on infertility, if only because she is SO FIT that she's not got enough body fat to be fertile

That was one, and I also based a large chunk of the SSS on pregnancy hormones. So if, by some miracle, she had enough body fat, it's entirely possible that that is a barrier. Luckily, I think that could (theoretically) be gotten around with treatment. (makes a note for farther down the timeline, if it ever comes up) I really, really hope I can figure out a way to BS my way through her biology, because if she's infertile, she's going to be devastated.

(I have always been amused by the idea that he could have brains in his dick...if only because "thinking with the other head" becomes hilarious in that scenario)

I need crackfic where someone cuts off Tony's head, and while he's regrowing it, someone inevitably asks why he's alive enough to even be able to regrow it. "His... other head is still functioning." The idea of most of Tony's vital brain tissue being in his dick is a beautiful one. :D

(facepalm) Tony's biology is something they forget at convenience, I've noticed. (hands wave) Maybe part of the problem is the operation. If he can recover from a gunshot like that, it's entirely possible that there's just no way to operate fast enough. IDK, I am not going to try to logic it, because my brains do not regenerate after breaking.

He'd pass it on, though I firmly maintain that his protective biotech armor is better than any condom, for his protection anyway. His partners probably need protection from the virus, though.

It's possible that what the biotech armor doesn't allow in, it doesn't allow out. (And I am not picturing that no no no arrrrrrghhh.) So Tony might technically be infertile too, without prior measures, since I can't imagine sex without the biotech armor being anything close to comfortable for him. Though then, if somehow pregnancy does happen in spite of all of this, the question becomes one of how the virus will interact with Stevie's healing factor. Or the baby's, for that matter, since it would probably have one too. (Yes, I am already planning for them to get married. *chants* O-T-P! O-T-P! O-T-P!)

Ah, Marvel. The things your screw ups make me think about. *sigh*

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